Ian Bicking: the old part of his blog

Re: Twill in javascript comment 000

I bet the future will be in recorders and/or test automation technology rather than twill-ish languages. After all, who cares what language the test uses, if the computer can write it for you?

I disagree, I think recordings can never understand what matters and what doesn't, and the result is too fragile. And once you've done it, if it's not expressed as some at least vaguely sensible language, then it is uneditable. That language might be in markup, or might not, but I think it really has to be a "language", not just a literal recording. Recorders are nice, still, they just aren't complete by themselves.

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by Ian Bicking

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"Recorders are nice, still, they just aren't complete by themselves."

I agree. Test recorders are kind of like of Ruby on Rails's generators and scaffolding... They both get knocked alot, however, they are very useful when you consider them "the starting point" and not the final production-ready result. Test recorders lower the barrier to entry into the testing framework's language or API--- that, and the kids love 'em. :-) My past experience with macro or test recording is with SQA Robot by Rational (now IBM) and with Microsoft Excel's built in macro utility. In both cases, I used recording to generate a simple, single working script... then went on to edit that raw test into a far more robust and "programmed, not recorded" test suite. The recorders gave me working code from step one, which I then manipulated as needed.

# Jason Huggins

Well, maybe it's a matter of degree. At some point I doubt there will be a need for language innovation -- but recorders can get much better...

We'll see ;).

--titus

# Titus Brown