Ian Bicking: the old part of his blog

Re: Towards PHP

Interesting. I just got back from mashupcamp. There I was talking with a developer of one of the big php apps. I said something to the effect of "the language design of php was an afterthought". (Note to me, not a good thing to do to a php developer). He made some rather offensive comment about python programmers and then said he'd have a complete application done just by configuring exisitng parts of their solution in less than 30 minutes. (Which is probably true, and the only thing that really exists in python similarly would by plone). Fine he had a point, php makes web programming easy (for easy things). I said something about PHP5 fixing some of the warts and he said that no one would move to php5 because "objects are a bad thing in web programming, just look at java". Another php developer who was chatting with us kind of gasped...

One more quick story. I was in a screen scraping session given by Adrian Holovarty (of Django fame) and someone walked in and asked if php made web programming easy. Adrian just kind of grinned. I found it quite humorous....

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