Unlike MS, Sun makes $$$ from selling hardware. Unlike IBM, Sun doesn't/can't provide the whole solution to the customer. For years Sun nerver gets the application software right. Otherwise there won't be weblogic and websphere. When the Sun management has no vision on how to make money on application software(they are a hardware vendor), what you can expect that they can get the programming language right. Tim Bray is exceptional. He would have done lots of good to Sun if he's joined in 1998. I love /usr/sbin/dtrace and /usr/sfw/bin/python.